Topic: Duplicates

Hello,

I would like to report here the duplicates I found so far:

- the Nationalmuseum of Stockholm has two pages. Idem for the Smithonian (http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1594) and the National Gallery of Art, Washington.

- idem for Rembrandt van Rijn (one page has the complete collection of his works, the other a few dozen).
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=2130

To be updated.
Josselin

2 (edited by Josselin 2013-05-29 16:32:05)

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It is also the case for the National Galleries of Scotland, Edinburgh
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1590
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=149


And the Palais des Beaux-arts de Lille :
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=811
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1497

Re: Duplicates

Hello Josselin,
    I fixed the three sets of duplicate museums you found, and fixed the duplicate Rembrandts. The one I left was person ID 3325.

As you find other duplicates, please list them in this thread and I'll fix them.

Thanks!

-- Chris

4 (edited by Josselin 2013-05-30 07:13:28)

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Hello Chris,
   I also found these:

Dunedin Art Galllery:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1577
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=795


Kunstmuseum, Saint-Gallen
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=807
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=296

There is also a strange museum: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1552
said to be the Kunstmuseum of Basle, Germany, whereas Basel (or Bâle in French as the city shares both languages) is in Switzerland. I fear that the paintings listed there are in fact in other Kunstmuseums in Germany.
The "real" Kunstmuseum in Basel is this one: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=330

5 (edited by Josselin 2013-05-30 05:56:38)

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Museo Thyssen-Bornemisza:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1585
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=82

Ecole des Beaux-Arts, Paris:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=852
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=853

Museum of Fine Arts - Budapest:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=326
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=140

The Uffizi has three pages!:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1605
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=288
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=52

To prevent from duplicates, you should decide between translating all the names, or leaving them in original languages. Museo del Prado or Prado Museum?

6 (edited by Josselin 2013-05-30 07:25:17)

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Palais des Beaux Arts - Lille:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1497
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=359
(it's the same museum, the most used spelling is the number 1497)

Musee Marmottan Monet:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=209
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=62

Musée National des Beaux-Arts Du Québec:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1622
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1744

There are two Terra Foundation:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1568
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=98

Château de Versailles:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=401
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2086

Musee Malraux, Le Havre (France):
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=482
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=334
(It's the same museum)

Musee de Grenoble:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=280
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=139

Museum voor Schone Kunsten - Ghent:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=295
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=568
(It is located in the Flemish part of Belgium)

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Keep posting! I'll fix them after work this evening (7pm London time). ;-)

8 (edited by Josselin 2013-05-30 09:06:53)

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The Musee d'art Moderne de la Ville de Paris:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=219
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=214

Re: Duplicates

Hello Josselin,
    I removed all of the duplicates you listed so far. Having a think about the best way to present museums which often go by various names:

1. A name in the local language
2. An English equivalent
3. Maybe a short name, such as just "the Uffizi" instead of "Gallery of the Uffizi"

I'm thinking of a few changes to help with this (although to be honest it's not that bad to periodically clean up duplicates that have crept in):
a. Allow entry of multiple names for a museum
b. Display a museum several times in the lists, under all of its names
c. When entering a new museum, run a search for similar names and show the user an "Are you sure it's not one of these?" box.

For now, I'm just happy to clean up the ones we find.

Thanks,
Chris

10 (edited by Josselin 2013-06-01 08:45:42)

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Haags Gemeentemuseum:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=157
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=317
All museums should also have the English name of the city at the end to avoid any confusion.

Museum Narodowe w Warszawie:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=205
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1920

I have also duplicate an image:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=102542
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=65294

Artist Charles Angrand:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=155
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=4836

11 (edited by Josselin 2013-06-03 07:24:21)

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Rye-Field by Shishkin:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=33200
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=42106

Cupid and Psyche by Bourguereau:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=8642
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=45039

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Hessiches Landesmuseum, Darmstadt
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2191
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=421

Re: Duplicates

Hello Josselin,
    I've caught up on all the ones in the thread. ;-)

-- Chris

14 (edited by Josselin 2013-06-13 17:59:43)

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Capodimonte, Napoli:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=894
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1954

Real Academia de Bellas Artes de San Fernando:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1862
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1491

Dunedin Public Art Gallery:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1577
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=795

National Gallery of Art - Washington:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=857
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=54

Muzeum Nardowe w Pozaniu:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2043
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=337

15 (edited by Josselin 2013-06-17 16:48:34)

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Musee des Beaux-Arts - Nancy:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1597
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=462

Musee des Beaux-Arts - Saint Lo:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=302
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=500

16 (edited by Josselin 2013-06-21 15:31:02)

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National Museum of Western Art, Tokyo:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=242
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=16

Kunsthalle zu Kiel:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2140
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2098

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Drawing of Rubens' son Albert Rubens:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=30831
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=30832

Rubens' Apotheosis of Henry IV and the Proclamation of the Regency:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=30845
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32351

Rubens' The Artist and His First Wife, Isabella Brant, in the Honeysuckle Bower:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32435
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=30810
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=30970
The good one is ID32435

Rubens' Christoffel Plantin:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=30984
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32434

The Fall of the Damned:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32192
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=30904

The Four Philosophers:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=30983
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32439

Happiness of the Regency:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32350
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=30851

Massacre of the Innocents:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=30903
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32199

Tournament in front of Castle Steen:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32460
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32461

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Raphael's Madonna and Child Enthroned with Saints:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=43041
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=43040

19 (edited by Josselin 2013-06-30 06:07:12)

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Musee de l'Annonciade, Saint-Tropez:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=368
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1687
The good one is id 368

Musée des arts décoratifs, Paris:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=50
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=249

Civica Galleria d'Arte Moderna - Milan:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2222
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=213

Montreal Museum of Fine Arts:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=63
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=144

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I just caught up, and have removed duplicates for all of the posts starting from June 13. :-)

21 (edited by Josselin 2013-07-05 03:58:58)

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Comedie Française, Paris:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1818
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2001

Staatliche Museen - Kassel:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=508
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=845

Tate Britain:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=858

Kunstmuseum Basel:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1552
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=330

Museum Kunstpalast - Dusseldorf:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2251
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1752

22 (edited by Josselin 2013-07-05 04:48:28)

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The museum system in Germany is really tricky, especially in Berlin. In this city, there is a general State museum system ("Staatliche Museen zu Berlin"), with many museum dependencies, as explained here. So the "Staatliche Museen zu Berlin" is just the body which directs them all, and NOT a museum.
The problem is that it has been created as such on the Athenaeum and now holds 258 artworks, which are actually in other museums (Gemaldegalerie, Alte Nationalgalerie...).
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=318
So I recommend to delete this museum and split its holdings between the other museums in Berlin. However, it would need a considerable time to do it... Moreover, several artworks on the web or scientific literature are just marked as displayed in the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin, without any further information of the precise gallery.
On the contrary, the "easy" solution would be to delete the other galleries, and just keep the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin.

I am also afraid that this problem exists in a minor extent in the other lander...

23 (edited by Josselin 2013-07-05 09:51:10)

Re: Duplicates

Albrecht Dürer:

Saint John's Church:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=23696
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32816

Portrait of Barbara Durer:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=12017
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32837

The Ill-Assorted Couple or the Offer of Love:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=34163
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=33966

Madonna With The Monkey:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=33975
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=34152

Adoration of the Magi:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=23713
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32926

The Jabach Altarpiece:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=33408
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=33407
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=33413

Feast of the Rose Garlands:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32928
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=23715

The Virgin Mary in Prayer:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32964
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=33419

St. Anthony:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=33300
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=33299

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Josselin,
    I started a new thread to think about how to improve our presentation/categorizing of "museums". Could you read through it and contribute your thoughts?

It's here: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/forum/view … hp?pid=892

Thanks,
Chris

Re: Duplicates

A Vision of Fiammetta - Dante Gabriel Rossetti:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=137
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=25274