101 (edited by kohn1fox 2014-04-15 07:56:34)

Re: bugs with museums

Josselin,

NO it doesn't work now that Chris has modified the museums entry.  I have tried:  'University of East Anglia - Norwich'; 'Sainsbury Centre for the Visual Arts - Norwich'; 'Sainsbury Centre for the Visual Arts (University of East Anglia); 'Sainsbury Centre for the Visual Arts (University of East Anglia) - Norwich'.

None of these are accepted and I receive the same syntax message.

I have asked Chris to look into this and many other bugs in this website but he doesn't respond.  Maybe he hasn't the time now but did he not set up this website in the first instance?

I don't even know who, if anyone, reads these messages.  You appear to be the only person who reads and puts forward suggestions and replies to messages!!  Other uploaders continue to post works that are incomplete or erroneous (as my numerous edits testify).

Re: bugs with museums

kohn1fox wrote:

Josselin,

NO it doesn't work now that Chris has modified the museums entry.  I have tried:  'University of East Anglia - Norwich'; 'Sainsbury Centre for the Visual Arts - Norwich'; 'Sainsbury Centre for the Visual Arts (University of East Anglia); 'Sainsbury Centre for the Visual Arts (University of East Anglia) - Norwich'.

None of these are accepted and I receive the same syntax message.

I have asked Chris to look into this and many other bugs in this website but he doesn't respond.  Maybe he hasn't the time now but did he not set up this website in the first instance?

I don't even know who, if anyone, reads these messages.  You appear to be the only person who reads and puts forward suggestions and replies to messages!!  Other uploaders continue to post works that are incomplete or erroneous (as my numerous edits testify).

I created the page: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2710

When it doesn't work, I suggest you to create a page with a different name, then edit it. That's what I did and it worked.

103 (edited by kohn1fox 2014-04-15 14:51:25)

Re: bugs with museums

Josselin

Thank you for that but I am not technically minded like you.  I simply go to 'open a new museum' and tap in the name in the areas created by Chris.  In that manner it doesn't work. Don't know what you mean about creating a new page.  As you see from my examples I tried many different names. But thanks anyway.

104 (edited by Josselin 2014-04-15 17:19:09)

Re: bugs with museums

kohn1fox wrote:

Don't know what you mean about creating a new page.

You're welcome.
I meant the link "Adding a new museum" from the home page (http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/update.php?a=a1).

I think this bug occurs because you entered the name of the museum in the field "Name in English" and left blank the "Primary name (required)" field. The "Name in English" field is only for the translation of non-English speaking museums. Maybe Chris should write it this way in the form. I agree that it's misleading.

In addition, you no longer have to add the location of the museum after an hyphen ( '- Norwich' in this case) as it is now automatically displayed in the dropdown menus and the museum list.

Re: bugs with museums

Josselin wrote:
kohn1fox wrote:

Don't know what you mean about creating a new page.

You're welcome.
I meant the link "Adding a new museum" from the home page (http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/update.php?a=a1).

I think this bug occurs because you entered the name of the museum in the field "Name in English" and left blank the "Primary name (required)" field. The "Name in English" field is only for the translation of non-English speaking museums. Maybe Chris should write it this way in the form. I agree that it's misleading.

In addition, you no longer have to add the location of the museum after an hyphen ( '- Norwich' in this case) as it is now automatically displayed in the dropdown menus and the museum list.

No I didn't add 'name in English'.  If th museum is in English I don't add a primary name but not to worry.  I'll see how it works at a later date.

The location of the museum does not show up in the artwork page so one doesn't know where it belongs.  That's why I like to add the city it is in.  I don't believe in 'unknown' for locations (very few locations are unknown)  as so many of you add.  Perhaps it is due to not checking properly as I am adding countless museum holders to 'unknowns' which have been left out by the original uploader (horrible term).  A large number of these are in public museums.  As with artwork sizes, most of which are left blank, I think it is lazyness on the part of the original loader.

Re: bugs with museums

kohn1fox wrote:

The location of the museum does not show up in the artwork page so one doesn't know where it belongs.  That's why I like to add the city it is in.  I don't believe in 'unknown' for locations (very few locations are unknown)  as so many of you add.  Perhaps it is due to not checking properly as I am adding countless museum holders to 'unknowns' which have been left out by the original uploader (horrible term).  A large number of these are in public museums.  As with artwork sizes, most of which are left blank, I think it is lazyness on the part of the original loader.

At least "unknown" location is not false location! I've found hundreds of artworks under false locations. But I agree that the location of many artworks listed in an unknown place can easily be found with a simple Google search.

Re: bugs with museums

Empty museums to delete or replace:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2000
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2690
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2675
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2689
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2694
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=749
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2662
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2369
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=186
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2576
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2686 (seems to be a commercial ad)
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2411

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Re: bugs with museums


I replaced first entry (Fyvie Castel).  This is a National Trust property in Scotland.  The one entry has been transferred to its correct holding.  Fyvie Castel needs to be deleted from the listing.

http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=749

This was a misspelling of the correct name for this establishment and a duplicate name was created.  This also needs to be deleted from the listings to avoid future mistakes.

109 (edited by kohn1fox 2014-04-24 09:17:36)

Re: bugs with museums

I wish Chris would permit Josselin and me to perform deletions of museum names as having a duplicate/incorrect name will cause mis-attributions and problems.

Re: bugs with museums

Empty museum page now replaced with Bonnefanten Museum - Maastricht.

http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2000

Re: bugs with museums

I have come across Italian works placed in the National Gallery, Budapest.  This gallery is for Hungarian 'national' works.  European works belong in the Museum of Fine Arts - Budapest, for which there is a museum entry.

Re: bugs with museums

There is an entry for 'Churches - Italy' (and similarly for Belgium and France).  Works of art that are displayed in small, relatively obscure churches can be entered under one of these titles.  The same could apply to Germany.

I have transferred frescos that were under 'unknown' to the appropriate church.

Re: bugs with museums

Hello kohn1fox and Josselin, I apologise for taking so long to fix the bug in the museum entry page. The problem here was the the page was breaking if someone entered a museum with a city but no country. It should now work correctly, but please let me know if you find further errors.

Re: bugs with museums

The new 'menu' dropdown listing is great but I note that some towns/cities show an incorrect country (although correct in the main index).  I have even come across (Guinea) as a country instead of Italy !  The latest is Saint Bavo Cathedral in Ghent, Belgium, that shows the country (Ireland).

I will highlight others I come across.

Re: bugs with museums

kohn1fox wrote:

The new 'menu' dropdown listing is great but I note that some towns/cities show an incorrect country (although correct in the main index).  I have even come across (Guinea) as a country instead of Italy !  The latest is Saint Bavo Cathedral in Ghent, Belgium, that shows the country (Ireland).

I will highlight others I come across.

Yeah I noted some of these strange locations. I think the database is a bit confused by the amount of countries. Maybe we could remove from the list all the tiny countries which don't have art museums (mostly Africans, and also French Polynesia, Guadeloupe, Guam, Greenland, Vanuatu and so on).
The list of nations is here: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/nations/list.php

Re: bugs with museums

Josselin wrote:
kohn1fox wrote:

The new 'menu' dropdown listing is great but I note that some towns/cities show an incorrect country (although correct in the main index).  I have even come across (Guinea) as a country instead of Italy !  The latest is Saint Bavo Cathedral in Ghent, Belgium, that shows the country (Ireland).

I will highlight others I come across.

Yeah I noted some of these strange locations. I think the database is a bit confused by the amount of countries. Maybe we could remove from the list all the tiny countries which don't have art museums (mostly Africans, and also French Polynesia, Guadeloupe, Guam, Greenland, Vanuatu and so on).
The list of nations is here: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/nations/list.php

I agree that there are a lot of countries that could be deleted and many African countries is an example.

117 (edited by Josselin 2014-06-02 06:29:24)

Re: bugs with museums

kohn1fox wrote:
Josselin wrote:
kohn1fox wrote:

The new 'menu' dropdown listing is great but I note that some towns/cities show an incorrect country (although correct in the main index).  I have even come across (Guinea) as a country instead of Italy !  The latest is Saint Bavo Cathedral in Ghent, Belgium, that shows the country (Ireland).

I will highlight others I come across.

Yeah I noted some of these strange locations. I think the database is a bit confused by the amount of countries. Maybe we could remove from the list all the tiny countries which don't have art museums (mostly Africans, and also French Polynesia, Guadeloupe, Guam, Greenland, Vanuatu and so on).
The list of nations is here: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/nations/list.php

I agree that there are a lot of countries that could be deleted and many African countries is an example.

The best one is Antartica: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/nations/detail.php?id=21
  lol

Re: bugs with museums

When searching for museums in Munich, the search engine returns several museums with their alternate name, instead of their first name.
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/search.php … rds=Munich
Instead of the Alte Pinakothek, it displays "Munich Old Picture Gallery".

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Re: bugs with museums

I have noticed that a very large number of Russian paintings were entered under the Hermitage, St Petersburg instead of the State Russian Museum, St Petersburg (or the Russian Museum).  The Hermitage contains foreign (European) works of art and the State Russian Museum holds Russian works and probably the greatest collection in Russia.

I intend to gradually transfer Russian art works from the Hermitage to their rightful ownership.

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Re: bugs with museums

kohn1fox wrote:

I have noticed that a very large number of Russian paintings were entered under the Hermitage, St Petersburg instead of the State Russian Museum, St Petersburg (or the Russian Museum).  The Hermitage contains foreign (European) works of art and the State Russian Museum holds Russian works and probably the greatest collection in Russia.

I intend to gradually transfer Russian art works from the Hermitage to their rightful ownership.

The same problem stands for the Berliner museums.