Re: Duplicates

Norwich Museum and Art Gallery:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1591
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=143

Re: Duplicates

These are the same.  The correct title is Norwich Castle Museum and Art Gallery.  The collective title however is Norfolk Museums and Archaeology Service (Norwich Castle Museum and Art Gallery).

Those entries under Norwich Museum and Art Gallery should be transferred to Norwich Castle Museum and Art Gallery.

Re: Duplicates

kohn1fox wrote:

These are the same.  The correct title is Norwich Castle Museum and Art Gallery.  The collective title however is Norfolk Museums and Archaeology Service (Norwich Castle Museum and Art Gallery).

Those entries under Norwich Museum and Art Gallery should be transferred to Norwich Castle Museum and Art Gallery.

Works have now been transferred to Norwich Castle Museum and Art Gallery.  The entry for Norwich Museum and Art Gallery has disappeared from the listings heading under museums index.  But it remains when one selects from the drop down menu.  This can be confusing and may prompt further entries.

129 (edited by Josselin 2013-11-16 12:23:21)

Re: Duplicates

Château de Compiègne:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1739
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2068

Musee Matisse - Nice;
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2148
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2005

Re: Duplicates

The artist Salomon de Bray had been created twice.  The second entry had 3 artworks and the earlier entry had one artwork.  I have therefore transferred the one artwork to the list for Salomon de Bray and changed the earlier artist entry to BRYAN ORGAN,  a contemporary portraitist.

Re: Duplicates

The artist Hendrick AVERCAMP has been duplicated recently.  There is already an entry for this artist with 35 works attached.  There is no excuse for not checking to see if the artist exists in the system.  The original entry gave incorrect dates, which I have edited. I have transferred the 7 works that had been entered under the duplicate name to the original record.  Four of these were duplicated and have been replaced with works by George Frederick Watts.

It is important that simple mistakes such as these are not repeated as many duplications have occurred in the past.  When one erroneously creates a duplicate record of an artist, invariably artworks are also duplicated and it can sometimes be time consuming and laborious to have to go through existing records to ascertain what are duplicates.

I have also noted that titles do not always have capital letters (in English nouns for example) where they belong.  I understand that some editors may not have English as their first language so this form might be difficult.  However, titles for artworks that are incorrectly shown makes the website appear slapdash and careless.

132 (edited by kohn1fox 2013-11-29 09:19:24)

Re: Duplicates

The above duplication has been replaced by 'German 16th Century - Unknown'.

Re: Duplicates

http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=3759
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=48973

second entry to be replaced by another work

Re: Duplicates

A Japanese Woman/The Orange Kimono - Robert Frederick Blum:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=16523
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=21873

Re: Duplicates

Museo Nacional de Bellas Artes - Buenos Aires:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=236
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1576
Correct one is museO.

Re: Duplicates

The Peale museum closed in 1997. The collection was transferred to the Maryland Historical Society.
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=667
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=666

Musée Matisse - Nice:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2148
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2005
@Rocsdad, there is a second Matisse Museum in France, located in Le Cateaux-Cambresis: http://museematisse.lenord.fr/fr/Accuei … fault.aspx
You should check if you didn't make any mistake between these two museums.

Panini (to delete):
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6651

Re: Duplicates

Jefferson David Chalfant - Bouguereau's Atelier at the Academie Julian, Paris:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=101123
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=35634

138 (edited by Josselin 2014-02-12 19:08:34)

Re: Duplicates

Musée cantonal des Beaux-Arts - Lausanne:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2519
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=285

Musée des Beaux-Arts - Angers:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1747
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=2046
Correct one is 2046.

Musee des Beaux-Arts et d'Archéologie - Besançon:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=408
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=380
Correct one is 408.

Musée National des Beaux-Arts d'Alger:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1938
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=243
Correct one is 243.

Re: Duplicates

Élisabeth Vigée Le Brun - Maria Ivanovna Bilibina née Kusova:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=67830
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=68659

Re: Duplicates

A recent new entry for Claude Gelee was created.  This is the same artist as Claude or Claude Lorrain, of which a large collection exists.

I fear that transferring the recently added works will result in duplication, but I will do this.

I am currently overseas from my home and do not have full internet coverage.

For newcomers - please check the listings if an artist is known by several titles, to avoid duplication and extra work by others.

Kohn1fox

Re: Duplicates

Hi Josselin

Re the above.  I have transferred the ten works entered on 8 February from Claude Gellee to the existing entry for Claude Lorrain.  I am away from home until end February and do not have access to websites.  Perhaps you could look at the duplicates and replace if possible.  I think that all those (10) that I transferred will already be in the system.  They have the French titles.

In retrospect, it would have been preferable to have indexed the artist under Claude instead of Lorrain/Gellee to have avoided this duplication.

I see you have made lots of edits!!

Graham

142 (edited by Josselin 2014-02-14 05:36:03)

Re: Duplicates

Hi Graham,
I checked and here the list of Claude's works requiring deletion:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=93582
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=132185
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=93385
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=93497
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=93593
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=132187
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=93557
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=132192
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=132184

I also changed his indexation and he now appears under the name "Claude Lorrain (Gellée)". I hope it will avoid any further confusion.

143 (edited by Josselin 2014-02-24 16:47:53)

Re: Duplicates

Hans Pleydenwurff:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6607
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6063

Carstian Luyckx:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6635
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6625

Re: Duplicates

The artist is Henry Bacon who exists in the system (along with this artwork that has been duplicated). I will action.

145 (edited by kohn1fox 2014-02-25 01:20:33)

Re: Duplicates

Josselin,

I think we need to take action, if possible, when we discover duplicates such as these, otherwise they will be lost in the system.

The examples above were created by the same uploader and it appears that not enough care was taken when checking existing artists.

146 (edited by kohn1fox 2014-02-25 01:55:40)

Re: Duplicates

Action taken.  This resulted in some duplications which have been replaced.

The duplicate artist entry has disappeared.

147 (edited by Josselin 2014-02-25 05:32:22)

Re: Duplicates

Hi Graham,

I'm reluctant to replace duplicates because of the link problem I mentioned. I hope Chris will grant us the possibility to "delete things"; it will be faster and simply better.

New duplicate found:
Dirck Hals: Music-Making Company on a Terrace
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=38806
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=38809

It seems that member Laure9, who posted may pictures of the Renaissance and Baroque, put indistinctly into 'Private collection' every artwork for which the museum entry was not created, instead of 'Unknown owner' or creating a page for the museum. Moreover, many of her entries are actually works done by pupils or followers. Lot of work to fix that...
Here is an example: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?id=37355
This painting was made by Giampietrino (a pupil of Leonardo) and is not in private hands, but in the Royal Academy of Arts of London.

Re: Duplicates

Rembrandt - Self Portrait as a Young Man:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=31895
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=32387

Fra Filippo Lippi - St Luke the Evangelist:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=38358
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=38357

149 (edited by kohn1fox 2014-02-25 08:25:58)

Re: Duplicates

Josselin wrote:

Hi Graham,

I'm reluctant to replace duplicates because of the link problem I mentioned. I hope Chris will grant us the possibility to "delete things"; it will be faster and simply better.

I am always careful when it comes to replacing a duplicated work with another work.  By links, do you mean the tags that sometimes accompany a work?  Example would be the duplicated Rembrandt Self Portrait (which cannot be replaced except by another self portrait and all known self portraits are already in the system).

I see no problem if the work in question is isolated without any links (and most are like this).

Chris,

Is it possible to permit us to delete entries (duplications of works/artists) rather than listing them as Josselin and others do?  I'm afraid that the lists get so long that they will be overlooked if early action is not taken?

Re: Duplicates

Josselin wrote:

Hi Graham,


Moreover, many of her entries are actually works done by pupils or followers. Lot of work to fix that...
Here is an example: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?id=37355
This painting was made by Giampietrino (a pupil of Leonardo) and is not in private hands, but in the Royal Academy of Arts of London.

Thanks Josselin for uncovering so many mistakes, especially this last big one.  Oh, I wish the Royal Academy had the Last Supper by Leonardo!!  This is indeed by a pupil and we can now describe this in the artist heading, thanks to Chris's work on the website.