1 (edited by kkvk 2014-01-18 03:27:28)

Topic: German name with 'von'

Hi, i insert a person-duplicate.

My new entry is 'Alt, Rudolf von' but he, as i see now, exist as 'von Alt, Rudolf'.

I think, my new name is the better one. Because in german the 'von' is only a minor part of the name (although it is part of the last name) and doesn't change the lexicographical order.

So you find in a dictionary for example
- 'Menzel, Adolph von' under M and not as here under V because of 'von Menzel, Adolph'
- 'Defregger, Franz von' under D and not as here under V because of 'von Defregger, Franz'
- and so on.

Have a nice weekend
Michael

Re: German name with 'von'

Hi, if you think i am right (if not, thats really no problem for me), i can help you and change the existing entries which start with 'von'.

I don't know what is the rule in Netherland with the 'van ...' people, so they will be untouched.

Michael

Re: German name with 'von'

Hello kkvk,

You're right, German names with a 'von' should be sorted as you said.  As well as Dutch names with 'van' (I already edited many of them) and French ones with 'de'.
Some exceptions exist. For example, Van Gogh and Van Loo are usually sorted under 'V' because they lived in France where these prepositions were uncommon.

Josselin.

Re: German name with 'von'

Josselin wrote:

You're right, German names with a 'von' should be sorted as you said.
Josselin.

Ok Josselin, i will change them.