(16 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Copyrighted images are said to be in public domain on the What's new? page.


(21 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Apparently, the site doesn't allow too small images to be uploaded.
It returns this:

Warning: copy(/tmp//tmp/php4pgOfF): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/arachne/public_html/art/add.php on line 179

Warning: pg_exec(): Query failed: ERROR: syntax error at or near "," LINE 1: ..., 0, 0, now(), 56981, 'Y', 473158, 473157, 0, '', '0', , '') ^ in /home/arachne/public_html/art/add.php on line 259
Can't insert art record.
SQL query: 'INSERT INTO artwork (title1, title1_sort, title2, artist1, medium, medium_free, begin_yr, begin_era, complete_yr, complete_era, height, width, dt_entered_pg, entered_by, thumbnail_flag, image_id, thumbnail_id, m_id, main_text, date_circa, image_mid_id,a1_type) VALUES ('Angel Holding a Lamp and a Nail', 'ANGELHOLDINGALAMPANDANAIL', '', 5478, 'Unknown', '', null, '', null, '', 0, 0, now(), 56981, 'Y', 473158, 473157, 0, '', '0', , '')'


(7 replies, posted in Suggestions from users)

I have split the Musei di Strada Nuova of Genoa into the Palazzo Bianco and Palazzo Rosso. The Musei di Strada Nuova is just the governing body.



(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Blanton Museum of Art:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1529 (correct)

This very big painting doesn't fit on the wall of the virtual gallery: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?ID=148151


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

kohn1fox wrote:
Josselin wrote:

You have a delete button at the bottom right of your messages.

I see only a delete button for the response entry, so if that were deleted the original message remains?  Example you indicate a duplicate entry.  I delete one entry and post a reply under your quote.  I can delete my reply but your original entry about the duplication remains?

I guess it doesn't matter since one of the entries has already been replaced but the original message is still showing as a message.

Am I missing something?

If you delete your messages and I delete mine, nothing will remain.


(7 replies, posted in Suggestions from users)

Well commercial galleries shouldn't be there as their artworks will move once sold.
On the other hand, Burghley House owns some artworks for centuries. The problem with these "museums" is that their catalogues aren't always up to date. So we never know if an artwork is still located there since they sometimes "discretely" sell some of their belongings through private transactions, whereas official museums are usually not allowed to do so. For example, even for a famous collection such as the Royal collection, there is always a doubt on the location of an artwork (is it in Buckingham or Hampdon Court?...)


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

You have a delete button at the bottom right of your messages.


(7 replies, posted in Suggestions from users)

Should I create museum entries for well established private collections such as the one in Burghley House, or the Barnes foundation?

After all, the British Royal collection or the Liechtenstein collection are private collections and have "museums" on the site...


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)


I have deleted my reports when the duplicates have been replaced. Can you do the same to make this thread easy to read?


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

To be deleted:

The search engine doesn't accept special characters. Queries for "Gemäldegalerie" or "musée" therefore return no result.

http://www.the-athenaeum.org/search.php … ldegalerie
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/search.php … mus%C3%A9e

I think these characters should be considered by the search engine as simple characters. "é, è, ê, ë, î, ï, ù, ü, û, ä, à, ç..." would therefore be processed as "e, i, u, a, c" by the engine. I don't list them all, but there are many other special characters in Nordic and Eastern languages (especially Polish and Czech). I also think of the German "ß", apparently considered as a "B" by the engine, whereas it is the equivalent of "ss".

Hello semiprecious50,

What do you want to know?

To post several images, you have to click on the "post reply" button on the lower right, then select and add file.


(121 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Nationality of United Kingdom artists isn't displayed in several lists. Example here: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=13

Hello selfanalyst,

I looked at the Brooklyn website and couldn't find it as well. It's possible that they haven't put online their whole collection yet or the artwork could have been deaccessioned.
Your best chance to find a reliable source about this painting is to search in the catalogue raisonné of Winslow Homer. The books are very expensive, but you may find them in an art library.
http://www.spanierman.com/Homer,-Winslo … /biography

Here is the link to the artwork you mentioned: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/detail.php?id=823



(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Musée Anne de Beaujeu:
http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1820 (correct)


(47 replies, posted in Suggestions from users)

kobrinbooks wrote:

Dear Josselin- magnificent tool you and Chris are developing- I've wanted to isolate/appreciate collectively Barbizan for example- and main protagonists influencing (Stevens) Manet and his modernist Pupil- who refused association with Impressionism.. how might they (defining colourists) with so much subsequent influence be categorized?
You might have to overlap as you anticipated. It would be nice if 'surrealism' could be linked to Turner too, because he influenced so many contemporaries, even young Landseer (the romantic rebel beyond bounds).
It's said it was young Millais (Apollo of next British movement), during his first year at RA admiring the feathers of a peacock while visiting Landseer's studio at Swiss Cottage , the Lion-tamer whipped out a loop and beamed; 'take a look at his eye!'. So born 'the peacock's eye' expression associated with Pre-Raphalite.
Hope funny if not useful.

Hi James,
This part of the site (art movements) is still incomplete. In the future, the list of artists related to an art movement will be displayed differently (with 'leaders', 'related artists', etc.).
I have started to write some descriptions of the movements in order to give an outline of their influences and purpose, and sort the artists according to their importance. Example here: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/mvmt/detail.php?id=9
However I'm not a specialist of Modern painting (principally Old Masters), so I cannot really speak for the preraphs and impressionists.



(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Empty and duplicate museum: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=186


(7 replies, posted in Suggestions from users)

I'm wondering what we should do with museums which doesn't exist anymore. As old records will still mention them, maybe we should keep a track of them in order to avoid any confusion for users or mistake by members.
It could be done with the "museum status" I mentioned above. One option would be "closed" or "destroyed" and we wouldn't be able to add pictures to this museum.
The Scheringa Museum voor Realisme is an example of a closed museum: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=1584

Second alternate name doesn't have a language option.

Dutch museums are a special case: as Dutch is so close to English, museum names are often the same in both languages, so I think there should be a script which prevent alternate names from being displayed twice when they are the same. Currently this only works when primary and alternate names are similar.

Example here: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/detail.php?id=181
In Frisian (official language in the North Netherlands), we have the Frysk Museum.
In Dutch: Fries Museum
In English: Fries Museum
The latter two are displayed twice in the alternate names line.


(1 replies, posted in Site news and updates)

In the future, I would like to see a feature to sign the texts written by members. Graham and I have added many biographical texts for artists and informative texts for artworks and art movements and received no credit for that whilst a member who uploaded an image is credited on the artwork page.

I also think there should be a mention somewhere that an artist has his biography written by a member (maybe a symbol next to his name in the lists?).

For the record, here is the list of the 61 artists with a significant biography:

Albani http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=7139
Amigoni http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6078
Artemisia http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=1630
Baudouin http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5660
Beaufort http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6724
Berthélemy http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6173
Bouguereau http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=380
Boullogne (Bon) http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6105
Boullogne (Madeleine) http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6125
Boullogne the Elder http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6124
Boullogne the Younger http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6106
Broc http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5477
Carriera http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=4211
Cazes http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=5578
Chardin [by Graham] http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=3899
Cignaroli http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=3215
Colombel http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=2181
Corot [by Graham] http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=110
Courtin http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5657
Coypel I http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6889
Coypel II http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6161
Coypel III http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6155
Coypel IV http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6898
Coysevox http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6875
Daret http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=4345
David http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=1959
Deshays de Colleville http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=5689
Dou [by Graham] http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=1326
Drouais http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5671
Dufresnoy http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6964
Duqueylard http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6149
Franceschini http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=7134
Giaquinto http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=3659
Girodet http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=4525
Godward http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=230
Guillon-Lethiere http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=5679
Hallé http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5705
Houasse http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6705
Ingres http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=405
Janmot http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5709
Lagrenée the Elder http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5480
Lagrenée the Younger http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6130
La Hyre http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=2929
Le Brun http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=3999
Ledart III http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6913
Lemaire http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=3100
Le Sueur http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5526
Mauperché http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=2458
Natoire http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5566
Poussin [by Graham] http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=3559
Quays http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6164
Ranc http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=5449
Rigaud http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=300
Schall http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=2562
Thierry the Younger http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6886
Tiepolo (Giovanni Battista) http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5430
Topino-Lebrun http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6162
Vernet http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=1639
Veronese http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5478
Vien http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6118
Vleughels http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6131

To be updated

kobrinbooks wrote:

How can I upload/post images without opening new topic?

You have to to click on the "post reply" link on the bottom right, then you have a button for attachment.

I added a link to your text next to the image.

Hello James,
I checked and Rousseau's self portrait is correctly spelled according to the National Gallery: http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/artis … i-rousseau

We just reproduce the titles and attributions we find on museum websites, auction booklets and catalogues raisonnés. As we aren't experts, we normally don't change the attributions mentioned in these sources. You may be right about this painting, but we haven't the required authority to follow your suggestion.
I nevertheless corrected the dimensions.
Here is the record of the sale: http://www.galerieheim.ch/oeuvre-detail … &lng=2



(116 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

kohn1fox wrote:
Josselin wrote:
kohn1fox wrote:

The new 'menu' dropdown listing is great but I note that some towns/cities show an incorrect country (although correct in the main index).  I have even come across (Guinea) as a country instead of Italy !  The latest is Saint Bavo Cathedral in Ghent, Belgium, that shows the country (Ireland).

I will highlight others I come across.

Yeah I noted some of these strange locations. I think the database is a bit confused by the amount of countries. Maybe we could remove from the list all the tiny countries which don't have art museums (mostly Africans, and also French Polynesia, Guadeloupe, Guam, Greenland, Vanuatu and so on).
The list of nations is here: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/nations/list.php

I agree that there are a lot of countries that could be deleted and many African countries is an example.

The best one is Antartica: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/nations/detail.php?id=21