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Josselin wrote:
kohn1fox wrote:

Don't know what you mean about creating a new page.

You're welcome.
I meant the link "Adding a new museum" from the home page (http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/update.php?a=a1).

I think this bug occurs because you entered the name of the museum in the field "Name in English" and left blank the "Primary name (required)" field. The "Name in English" field is only for the translation of non-English speaking museums. Maybe Chris should write it this way in the form. I agree that it's misleading.

In addition, you no longer have to add the location of the museum after an hyphen ( '- Norwich' in this case) as it is now automatically displayed in the dropdown menus and the museum list.

No I didn't add 'name in English'.  If th museum is in English I don't add a primary name but not to worry.  I'll see how it works at a later date.

The location of the museum does not show up in the artwork page so one doesn't know where it belongs.  That's why I like to add the city it is in.  I don't believe in 'unknown' for locations (very few locations are unknown)  as so many of you add.  Perhaps it is due to not checking properly as I am adding countless museum holders to 'unknowns' which have been left out by the original uploader (horrible term).  A large number of these are in public museums.  As with artwork sizes, most of which are left blank, I think it is lazyness on the part of the original loader.

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Josselin

Thank you for that but I am not technically minded like you.  I simply go to 'open a new museum' and tap in the name in the areas created by Chris.  In that manner it doesn't work. Don't know what you mean about creating a new page.  As you see from my examples I tried many different names. But thanks anyway.

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Josselin

I would be inclined to replace your duplicates with alternatives as I do.  There are now so many in the system going back that they will probably never get deleted.  I have come across duplicates entered in 2003.

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Josselin,

NO it doesn't work now that Chris has modified the museums entry.  I have tried:  'University of East Anglia - Norwich'; 'Sainsbury Centre for the Visual Arts - Norwich'; 'Sainsbury Centre for the Visual Arts (University of East Anglia); 'Sainsbury Centre for the Visual Arts (University of East Anglia) - Norwich'.

None of these are accepted and I receive the same syntax message.

I have asked Chris to look into this and many other bugs in this website but he doesn't respond.  Maybe he hasn't the time now but did he not set up this website in the first instance?

I don't even know who, if anyone, reads these messages.  You appear to be the only person who reads and puts forward suggestions and replies to messages!!  Other uploaders continue to post works that are incomplete or erroneous (as my numerous edits testify).

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This is the message received after several attempts at opening a new museum:

Warning: pg_query(): Query failed: ERROR: syntax error at or near "," LINE 1: ...sainsbury centre', '', '', '', '', '', 'Norwich', , '', '', ... ^ in /home/arachne/public_html/sources/update.php on line 195
Can't insert new museum record.
Query was: INSERT INTO museums (name, primary_name, primary_name_lang, primary_name_sort, english_name, english_name_sort, other_name, other_name_sort, affiliation, city, nat, address, web_address, description,dt_entered, entered_by) VALUES ('', 'Sainsbury Centre - Norwich', 'English', 'sainsbury centre', '', '', '', '', '', 'Norwich', , '', '', '', NOW(), 56944 )

Any suggestions?

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kohn1fox wrote:

MAJOR FAILURE IN THIS SYSTEM.  Unable now to create a new museum record.  This is the second attempt made but the system fails.


Grateful Chris if you could check.  I have tried to create 'Sainsbury Centre for the Visual Arts (University of East Anglia) - Norwich'  but it doesn't accept this title, nor abbreviated titles.  Have checked but cannot find this 'museum' exists.  There are some important modern works housed there.

My earlier attempt to open a new museum record was for 'Bank of England Collection - London'.  That didn't work either.

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MAJOR FAILURE IN THIS SYSTEM.  Unable now to create a new museum record.  This is the second attempt made but the system fails.

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To Schroetterjoseph

It is best not to place works of art under Staatliche Museen zu Berlin as this is an organisation that administers 17 museums, research institutes and libraries throughout Berlin.  Old master works of art should be entered under Gemaldegalerie Berlin, for which there is a museum entry.

I have transferred those I come across but there are still 169 works under the 'collective' title of Staatliche so unless an uploader takes this into account it will remain indecisive as to where the artwork is actually housed.

One cannot find the Staatliches zu Berlin museum in that city because it doesn't exist as a physical museum site.

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Chris

Unable to insert a new museum record, 'Bank of England Museum - London'.

Don't know why it fails to accept it.  Have entered all the appropriate information and tried different names (Bank of England - London) and entered primary title and title for sorting. 

Any idea?

This is the response I get:

Warning: pg_query(): Query failed: ERROR: syntax error at or near "," LINE 1: ... London', '-1', '', '', '', '', '', '', 'London', , '', '', ... ^ in /home/arachne/public_html/sources/update.php on line 195
Can't insert new museum record.
Query was: INSERT INTO museums (name, primary_name, primary_name_lang, primary_name_sort, english_name, english_name_sort, other_name, other_name_sort, affiliation, city, nat, address, web_address, description,dt_entered, entered_by) VALUES ('', 'Bank of England Collection London', '-1', '', '', '', '', '', '', 'London', , '', '', '', NOW(), 56944 )

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Unfortunately a second duplicated entry for Albrecht Altdorfer has been created (with 5 works).  I will deal.

Chris

This is happening fairly often.  Is there a means to alert someone when the same name is entered a second time, to avoid this dulpication.

There could well be other duplicated artists that have not come to light yet!

Graham

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I have combined works under Giovanni Paolo Panini but, unfortunately, this has resulted in a number of duplicated paintings, which I will remove and replace.

Chris,

Can you please remove from the dropdown listings:  Giovanni Panini (no entries) and Giovanni Paolo Pannini (no entries).  There is the ONE correct entry with 153 paintings under Giovanni Paolo Panini.

Also to remove under dropdown for museums a duplicated entry, Galleria Francelli Ca' d'Oro - Venice.

Thanks

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This demonstrates a lack of research.  There are however two spellings for the name and I would tend to go along with 'Panini' as opposed to 'Pannini'. 

I have asked Chris if he could install a message to prompt the user when a name is identical (or very similar, as in this case).

I will try to sort these mistakes

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There was a duplication of museums:  De mestag Collectie (The Hague) and Museum Mestag (The Hague).  I have transferred the one artwork from Museum Mestag to De Mestag Collectie - The Hague.

Museum Mestag entry in the dropdown listing needs to be removed.

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Chris

I've tried again with the suggested list of museums, by highlighting the museum but it doesn't migrate to the art page when submitting (I tried it with the Louvre).  The principle sounds good (I though one highlighted the 'owner' and then it would appear in the owner's window).

Perhaps you could have a look at this bug when you have time.  It is a useful tool and often much quicker than typing in the name of the museum.

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Josselin/Chris,

I am not sure what the point of the suggested museums listing is when wanting to enter a museum for an artwork.  I have tried several times to key in one of the museums but it doesn't work.  Equally I cannot 'cut & paste' - the window just resorts to 'unknown'.  It appears to be of no use whatsoever.

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kohn1fox wrote:

On the subject of sculptures, we should have another material entry for 'terracotta' which is missing.  Numerous exhibits are made in terracotta.

In addition we should add 'plaster' to the list.

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On the subject of sculptures, we should have another material entry for 'terracotta' which is missing.  Numerous exhibits are made in terracotta.

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On the above subject:  I have tried the list of suggested museums but when I highlight a museum it doesn't appear in the window.  In the end I have to abandon that way and enter the name manually.  Not sure if I am using the 'suggested' list correctly but it does seem to denote where to make a selection.

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chris_mccormick wrote:

Unfortunately Graham, I don't know of a way to make this much faster at the moment. On my machine, it does take up to three or four seconds for typing in the museum search before it gives me some results. However, using the dropdown list for almost 2,000 entries was a lot slower in scrolling up and down, plus it didn't help you to find a museum if it was sorted somewhere unexpected. I think this is the best solution we have for now.

Keep in mind that there is also the list of suggested museums. If you are working with an artist (the most common case), it shows you the main museums with that artists's works, museums in the artist's birth country, and the last 20 museums you interacted with. I don't have statistics, but it is hoped that much of the time the suggested museums will have the one you want, without having to do the search at all.

This is a longstanding computing challenge for all web sites - how to quickly sort through many entries. Places like Google solve it by having many hundreds or even thousands of servers. Our solution relies on the user's computer to do the sorting ("client side"), which at least means that as browsers improve and computers speed up, the sorting will slowly get faster...

Thanks for the explanation.  I mentioned this fact because when editing an entry the dropdown list of museums appears and I can generally locate much more quickly, but not really a problem just a slight 'irritant'!

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Hi Chris,

Is it possible to create the drop down list of museums when entering a work instead of tapping in the name, which is terribly slow (even more so since your improvement in the museum titles).

I would prefer to select the museum name from the drop down list, much in the same way as that for the medium.

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Thanks Chris.  It all sounds rather confusing but no doubt it will fall into place as and when I work through the web.  I found the same problem as Joseelin above with 'Tate - Modern'  (it doesn't show the name on the art page but only the icon, but it does in the listings).

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On the above topic I am not too happy with an ownership category, 'Unknown'.  This tends to attract an enormous number of entries (not mine) whose whereabouts are probably in either an established institution (museum, gallery, religious edifice, academy etc) or in private hands.

I question whether we could have a 'blank' ownership window for us to enter a name that is not already in the system and doesn't warrant its own museum page.  The above Institut is a good example.

There are numerous 'museum' entries that have one item only.  These could still be given their appropriate location when uploading the information but the name could then appear under a category/collective title, such as 'miscellaneous owners' (these could then be listed alphabetically in the museum index perhaps).

To place an item under 'Unknown' seems irrelevant but if this is the case it is probably in private hands (with no public access or the owner wishes to remain anonymous) or it is a recorded artwork but its present location is not known?    If the latter then that should be explained in the description - 'whereabouts currently unknown'

In respect of the Institut de France - Paris it probably doesn't justify its own museum entry, so this is a good contender for the name to be inserted as a one-off and listed under 'miscellaneous owners'

Any thoughts on this?

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The entry page for museums has changed and is now not accepting a new museum entry.  I have tried several attempts to open a new 'museum'-  'Institut de France - Paris'  but it keeps declining.

I have entered the primary language as French and added the English translation (which is optional), but there is a message which seems to refer to an existing entry.  But I have been unable to find it!

The former 'museum' page was simple and usually worked but now I think too much detail has been created in the functionality.  I am starting to think this is a backward step.

Help!!

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The amended title also doesn't appear in the museums dropdown list.

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Chris,

The museum edit.  When one edits a museum title it accepts it but fails to correct all the listings for that title. 

Example:

Biblioteque Nationale de France - Paris is misspelt.  It should be Bibliothèque Nationale de France - Paris.  This amendment is accepted on the museum page but doesn't appear when one returns to the art page.