(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Kohn1fox has removed his entries but it is up to Josselin to now delete her entries, otherwise confusion reigns


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Ok but it depends on the originator taking action.  No action from me for a while as I am in the Baltic.


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

kohn1fox wrote:

The following are duplicates:



One image has better colour

Action taken to remove entries by Kohn1fox (but original entries remain).

How does one remove the tags from a duplicated work as in the above example?


(7 replies, posted in Suggestions from users)

There appear to be a large number of small museums and [private/commercial] galleries being entered onto this website.  But I'm not sure if they should be here.  There are hundreds such galleries in London for example but they are commercial enterprises and basically advertise and sell works of art.

My entries are all recognized public museums and institutions.

Where do we draw the line?


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Josselin wrote:

You have a delete button at the bottom right of your messages.

I see only a delete button for the response entry, so if that were deleted the original message remains?  Example you indicate a duplicate entry.  I delete one entry and post a reply under your quote.  I can delete my reply but your original entry about the duplication remains?

I guess it doesn't matter since one of the entries has already been replaced but the original message is still showing as a message.

Am I missing something?


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

How does one delete the original entry?  I see only the quote response for deletion.  Can only the originator of the message delete?  If so, then if I delete my replies the original message remains and will be confusing.


(1 replies, posted in Site news and updates)

Josselin wrote:

In the future, I would like to see a feature to sign the texts written by members. Graham and I have added many biographical texts for artists and informative texts for artworks and art movements and received no credit for that whilst a member who uploaded an image is credited on the artwork page.

I also think there should be a mention somewhere that an artist has his biography written by a member (maybe a symbol next to his name in the lists?).

For the record, here is the list of artists with a significant biography:

Amigoni http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6078
Artemisia http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=1630
Baudouin http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5660
Beaufort http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6724
Berthélemy http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6173
Bouguereau http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=380
Boullogne (Bon) http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6105
Boullogne (Madeleine) http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6125
Boullogne the Elder http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6124
Boullogne the Younger http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6106
Broc http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5477
Carriera http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=4211
Cazes http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=5578
Cignaroli http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=3215
Colombel http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=2181
Courtin http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5657
Coypel I http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6889
Coypel II http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6161
Coypel III http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6155
Coypel IV http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6898
Coysevox http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6875
Daret http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=4345
David http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=1959
Deshays de Colleville http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=5689
Drouais http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5671
Dufresnoy http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6964
Duqueylard http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6149
Giaquinto http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=3659
Girodet http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=4525
Godward http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=230
Guillon-Lethiere http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=5679
Hallé http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5705
Houasse http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6705
Ingres http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=405
Lagrenée the Elder http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5480
Lagrenée the Younger http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6130
La Hyre http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=2929
Ledart III http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6913
Lemaire http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=3100
Le Sueur http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5526
Mauperché http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=2458
Natoire http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5566
Poussin http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=3559
Quays http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6164
Ranc http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=5449
Rigaud http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=300
Schall http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=2562
Thierry the Younger http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6886
Tiepolo (Giovanni Battista) http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=5430
Topino-Lebrun http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6162
Vernet http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=1639
Vien http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?ID=6118
Vleughels http://www.the-athenaeum.org/people/detail.php?id=6131

To be updated

Yes I tend to agree.  Most of the above has been added by Josselin (not me) although I have entered several biographies and continue to do so.  I also add some descriptive text to artworks as and when I come across something.  It is a laborious task and is ongoing slowly (entries of artworks take precedence for me).  I have today added some text for Bernardo Strozzi (biographical and for some of his works) but for many artists - especially the early ones - not much can be written.

Josselin has done a marvelous job in expanding this website with important information and credit should not be unrewarded.

I have also edited and provided many facts to countless works.  As I stated earlier, it would be useful if the editorial uploader was mentioned when an edit is made.


(116 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Josselin wrote:
kohn1fox wrote:

The new 'menu' dropdown listing is great but I note that some towns/cities show an incorrect country (although correct in the main index).  I have even come across (Guinea) as a country instead of Italy !  The latest is Saint Bavo Cathedral in Ghent, Belgium, that shows the country (Ireland).

I will highlight others I come across.

Yeah I noted some of these strange locations. I think the database is a bit confused by the amount of countries. Maybe we could remove from the list all the tiny countries which don't have art museums (mostly Africans, and also French Polynesia, Guadeloupe, Guam, Greenland, Vanuatu and so on).
The list of nations is here: http://www.the-athenaeum.org/nations/list.php

I agree that there are a lot of countries that could be deleted and many African countries is an example.


(116 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

The new 'menu' dropdown listing is great but I note that some towns/cities show an incorrect country (although correct in the main index).  I have even come across (Guinea) as a country instead of Italy !  The latest is Saint Bavo Cathedral in Ghent, Belgium, that shows the country (Ireland).

I will highlight others I come across.


(12 replies, posted in Suggestions from users)

As I suggested a few weeks back, it would be useful if Chris could add under sculpture (materials) - plaster and terracotta (which is a type of fired clay). I am currently using 'other'.  Thanks.


(121 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

For some reason the webpage wil not allow me to enter an artwork to a newly created artist.  I have works to enter under BRUYN, Bartolommaeus, but it will not open???


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Franz Alt is the younger brother of Rudolf von Alt.


(116 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

There is an entry for 'Churches - Italy' (and similarly for Belgium and France).  Works of art that are displayed in small, relatively obscure churches can be entered under one of these titles.  The same could apply to Germany.

I have transferred frescos that were under 'unknown' to the appropriate church.


(116 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

I have come across Italian works placed in the National Gallery, Budapest.  This gallery is for Hungarian 'national' works.  European works belong in the Museum of Fine Arts - Budapest, for which there is a museum entry.


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)


The six works transferred to the correct artist (3 of these were duplicates and have been replaced by different works).

The newer artist page replaced with another artist, Lippo Memmi.


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Henry Percy Gray:

Works transferred to full name of artist and the other entry renamed 'Master of 1518'


(116 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Empty museum page now replaced with Bonnefanten Museum - Maastricht.



(116 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

I wish Chris would permit Josselin and me to perform deletions of museum names as having a duplicate/incorrect name will cause mis-attributions and problems.


(116 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

I replaced first entry (Fyvie Castel).  This is a National Trust property in Scotland.  The one entry has been transferred to its correct holding.  Fyvie Castel needs to be deleted from the listing.


This was a misspelling of the correct name for this establishment and a duplicate name was created.  This also needs to be deleted from the listings to avoid future mistakes.


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Angers work transferred to correct museum title - 'Musée d'Angers' needs to be removed from dropdown list.


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

My mistakes.  Both artworks replaced (not Canaletto)


(116 replies, posted in Bug reporting)

Josselin wrote:
kohn1fox wrote:

Don't know what you mean about creating a new page.

You're welcome.
I meant the link "Adding a new museum" from the home page (http://www.the-athenaeum.org/sources/update.php?a=a1).

I think this bug occurs because you entered the name of the museum in the field "Name in English" and left blank the "Primary name (required)" field. The "Name in English" field is only for the translation of non-English speaking museums. Maybe Chris should write it this way in the form. I agree that it's misleading.

In addition, you no longer have to add the location of the museum after an hyphen ( '- Norwich' in this case) as it is now automatically displayed in the dropdown menus and the museum list.

No I didn't add 'name in English'.  If th museum is in English I don't add a primary name but not to worry.  I'll see how it works at a later date.

The location of the museum does not show up in the artwork page so one doesn't know where it belongs.  That's why I like to add the city it is in.  I don't believe in 'unknown' for locations (very few locations are unknown)  as so many of you add.  Perhaps it is due to not checking properly as I am adding countless museum holders to 'unknowns' which have been left out by the original uploader (horrible term).  A large number of these are in public museums.  As with artwork sizes, most of which are left blank, I think it is lazyness on the part of the original loader.


(116 replies, posted in Bug reporting)


Thank you for that but I am not technically minded like you.  I simply go to 'open a new museum' and tap in the name in the areas created by Chris.  In that manner it doesn't work. Don't know what you mean about creating a new page.  As you see from my examples I tried many different names. But thanks anyway.


(211 replies, posted in Bug reporting)


I would be inclined to replace your duplicates with alternatives as I do.  There are now so many in the system going back that they will probably never get deleted.  I have come across duplicates entered in 2003.


(116 replies, posted in Bug reporting)


NO it doesn't work now that Chris has modified the museums entry.  I have tried:  'University of East Anglia - Norwich'; 'Sainsbury Centre for the Visual Arts - Norwich'; 'Sainsbury Centre for the Visual Arts (University of East Anglia); 'Sainsbury Centre for the Visual Arts (University of East Anglia) - Norwich'.

None of these are accepted and I receive the same syntax message.

I have asked Chris to look into this and many other bugs in this website but he doesn't respond.  Maybe he hasn't the time now but did he not set up this website in the first instance?

I don't even know who, if anyone, reads these messages.  You appear to be the only person who reads and puts forward suggestions and replies to messages!!  Other uploaders continue to post works that are incomplete or erroneous (as my numerous edits testify).